Here's as good a spot as any - for my story of a day in the trenches with Trump lovers, attempting dialogue -
while stuck in a Florida airport for a day, and then on a plane.
Confirmed/conclusion about popular/typical sentiments -
Agreed upon by those who engaged open-mindedly (or partially). First off, "there is a wall" (he's gotten that!
) and it's between one world view and another. What I'd call fact-based vs. belief-in-Trump based. As an MSNBC commentator cogently described - a psychiatrist in fact, maybe you saw it yesterday, link follows - Trump is a textbook and rare example of "arrested development"- so he's just doing all he knows to do, without memory, comprehension, focus, or principles - just repeating his effective sound bytes and using his only/lifelong _conning _skills (with lots of help propping it up and feeding alongside at the corruption trough). He has totally convinced his base that HE IS America, and so if you love America, you love him (as strongmen historically do). He's a natural at it. OR, you could look at what he actually has said and done beyond merely repeating "He's done so much for America, he's kept his word" etc., without listing a single actual (positive, reality-based) thing. So... What's so great? Inevitably, 99% of reactions (to being interviewed by a social scientist!) were, among my admittedly small, non-scientific sample, "what about 8 years of Obama?" and/or "what about Hillary and the server and Benghazi?" (especially from some military & police families). Automatic deflection from anything relating to Trump, or to "here and now". The reaction is simply to unpack grievances, talk about "socialism", and repeat the RT/Fox/Trump/Bannon propaganda. Nobody even questions a "president" whose "communication" = tweeting like an angry bird.
I noted that not one person could stick with answering, "but what about now?
What about what is being done to our country, to global cooperation, civility, and diplomacy? What about the environment, commitment to science & education?" Response often is/was: Look at all the jobs he's created, and isn't bringing jobs home from China a good thing? No possiblity exists of considering suggestions that this is a fantasy - and/or how making solar panels etc. HERE would create jobs and improve trade balance
. Blank looks and maybe something else about the evils of Pelosi..... Nobody seems willing or interested in talking about the obvious.
I had one great conversation with someone very anti-Obama/Clintons/"liberals" who actually listened but could not get passed "we'll agree to disagree" about Congress' integrity (or lack) and about the relative harm and/or mental capacity (and danger) of Trump, vs. all previous presidents. "We both learned". A good thing at least to listen and try to understand.
Another well-to-do professional from a Northern burb (next to me on the plane) just went full-blind, on any of these points. Reminded me of the scene in Woody Allen's Annie Hall: "How do you two get along so well?" Simple, we don't think.
And thus it was as this year's Thanksgiving theme around the country - don't discuss impeachment, politics, or anything real.
And so here we are in concrete, stuck at our walls, by in large. As the psychiatrist said (on O'Donnell/Last Word), any one of those die-hard Trump supporters, ironically, would be better (by virtue of having adult, non-defective brains) than Trump himself. He can't help it. He's badly defective. But "believers" can't/won't see that, so....
Choose whether the sky is blue or black, and whether up means down. Truth is fake, lies come by the 1000's, and it's "normal" ?!!!
Psychiatrist Lance Dodes joins Lawrence O'Donnell to discuss Donald Trump’s behavior abroad as the impeachment investigation advances at home. Dr. Dodes says President Trump is "running a really simple program" with "limited capacity" and exemplifying "early emotional development."www.msnbc.com