Finally, I recommend you to spread/share your desire, successes and difficulties (both online and offline) of getting free from Google and #GAFAM ( #Google, #Apple, #Facebook, #Amazon, #Microsoft) in general.
how would I explain these things … say - to someone’s mother?
that’s where the main problem lies … people have lives that either don’t give them the time to work through all the intricacies of these or just don’t have the ability or patience to learn fairly difficult new processes much less having the ability to set them up … I’m borderline in that department - my patience level for starting ANOTHER new thing is paper thin at this point in my life (if not thinner) … for a majority of people these things JUST AREN’T FEASIBLE …
I’m very curious as to what this crowd has to say about this problem - I have played at the outskirts of these things since 92 … I understand the need for these and yet - there was the promise that at some point these would get easier to use … they to some extent but not really … I just don’t have any more patience to start from scratch anymore … what do people like me or those that understand the need but have no real technical ability or know-how do?
life sucks enough out of me - why should my computer do the same? … sorry - just so frustrated with everything and would like to know what if anything can be done …
... and yes - I'm making the assumption that a 'mother' wouldn't be tech savvy - but I know enough of them who are anything but to know that they exist and are just being used as an easy to understand example (I know plenty of fathers who don't have a clue as well) ... just wanted to head off any complaints about my choice of words ...
@Xenophrenia I'm not sure this is for "someone's mother". Just for people who want to take the extra steps. Right now I'm not sure there are good alternatives for the standard person, but there are for people who are more technical or have the patience.
It's quite unfortunate. Protonmail looks to be a good successor to Gmail for the average person since it's not very hard to use and I feel that as they get bigger and more clients, they'll continue to grow. DuckDuckGo is the only search engine that's kind of its own thing that I think will continue to grow in popularity.
They're not perfect but miles ahead of Google. Mastodon is easy to sign-up for and I think will become more popular once an instance gets enough traction. We'll continue to see more and more of these privacy/open-source FOSS projects grow and, with time, be simple and intuitive for the average user.
Completely removing Google, Facebook, tracking, etc is very hard right now but it will get easier. I tend to donate to organizations and projects I like. Even if it's just a dollar or two, it helps.
We’ll continue to see more and more of these privacy/open-source FOSS projects grow and, with time, be simple and intuitive for the average user.
that's the thing - I've been hearing this for 20 years ... though it has improved & I'm on Mastodon (I just keep forgetting to use it because there are just too many) ... family on Facebook makes that difficult to leave - I only follow family and it's the ONLY place I use my real name ... (I've had this nym for 20+ years now - knowing that Google and my ISP know the connection) ... thanks for the help
@Gergely (∀E∃A) PeerTubeify sounds interessting... but is not available for opera. But.. is there also a searchengine to search videos on all peertube servers ?
Also I can recommend another messanger: Riot.im (https://about.riot.im) still beta but works good. Also audio and video chat integrated.. but don't know if it works allready. And the best part: its decentral and open source
It's a site dedicated to privacy-friendly alternatives to big-tech services, and it's mostly intended for people who don't want to spend time digging into every detail. (There is also a section for the technically minded.)
You can also follow them on Mastodon to be part of the search for more alternatives.
@Fakultativ Parasit Peertube itself is federated, like Diaspora or Mastodon. So visiting any instance would let you find all available videos from there. In theory, that is. Filtering, blocking, and probably other factors all affect which videos are known to a specific instance.
If you look at https://instances.joinpeertube.org/instances you will find instances with between 0 and 10,000 locally hosted videos. You will also notice that the number of known videos varies from instance to instance: from 0 to 140,000.
Clicking on any table header sorts by that column. That might help you choose an instance for searching from - or an instance to join, if you would like to share your own videos.
@[email protected] if I understood correctly, PeerTube lets the instance administrator choose which instances it connects to, so from one instance you can see the local videos and the ones from "connected" instances. You can probably post a comment on a video from whatever instance though, I think (and from Mastodon, and other ActivityPub softwares if compatible)
Correct, I set up my own instance of peertube the other day and if you don't give it a list of other instances you see absolutely no videos at all. It's up to the webmaster to keep that list updated, though I think there are scripts to automate that. I didn't have the time to look into it.
you don’t have to use your isp’s DNS, you just need one DNS.
Well, yes, it is supposed to be that way. But Google News routes you through their very own URLS, thereby bypassing that mechanism. Also Mozilla has teamed-up with Cloudflare to use Cloudflare's name resolution when you click on a cloudflare-associated URL in Firefox. I'm not really clear on how that works...
@Fanch_301 & @Rob Bosch: Indeed, I have forgotten to include Google translate. I also use DeepL for translations most of the time. If I can, I use Apertium because that is free/open-source, but unfortunately it lacks the language pairs I need most often...
@[email protected], @Michele Santullo so some sort of peer whitelisting, then? I think there may be additional connectedness factors, depending on if anyone on a certain instance follows people on other instances. Like, videos only federate if implicitly requested.
I am all ears if you can advice me how to promote my privacy friendly service without offending people.
@WishSimply, that is a tough problem because there is a fine line between effectively promoting and offensively promoting something... I think, if you put the emphasis on the idea behind the product instead of on the product, then the promotion becomes more effective and less offensive...
Just one thing I don't understand how to make it work : GPS. It's the only google app I have left via waze. I tried OSMand+ but it doesn't work for me : I used it twice and my travels were weird. Took me two times longer than usually. Plus the app won't stop to run unless I reboot my fairphone. I checked out openstreetmap but I didn't understand how to make it work and doesn't even know the village where I work...
I also tried mappy and via michelin but there are 11 trackers on those...
@Michele Santullo, in the "Developer options" menu of the settings at the very bottom there is a "Kill app back button" option. If that is turned on, you can kill the foreground app by long-pressing the back button. Maybe that can be used as a workaround for your closing apps problem.
@Gergely (∀E∃A) Thanks about your suggestion. I can agree on that, but I don't see how to do it, as if I bring up the idea about privacy friendly wishlist and then I take up the name or url ..it would be at once taking up the service/product, no?
@charlie brownau In case your comment was directed to me.. I was not offended. However, I am willing to listen and improve my message. Perhaps even @Rob Bosch will check my service still out. :)
@Mr.G. I am also using OSMand+ app in my lineage phone, but it closes fine. However, I will close all the apps so that I will double click the middle bottom button and then the cross in the top right corner of each app. Dunno if that is the normal way.. or the way how you tried it.
@WishSimply, your first sentence "For your wishlist needs you might want to check out wishsimply." was immediately talking about the product you wish to advertise. To be honest, your comment basically fits to any post containing hashtags #privacy and #amazon. So if you were not joining the conversation, we may think that you are running a bot account spamming on all posts having those hashtags...
If you reverse the order: first joint the conversation and then bring up your product and also first tell us the problem and just after that you have a solution, then your advertising become less annoying and more effective I think.
For example in the case of this post, you could have started with bringing up that Google is just the tip of the iceberg and there are lots of other BigData trader companies in the dark side. Amazon is one of them as it is mentioned at the end of the post. And then continue with that wish list is another privacy invading product of Amanzon and others. And then mention that you are developing a privacy respecting alternative to that. At least this is how I would have introduced it if I were you.
I know this is a tough dilemma because advertising is bad in general. Usually, it just makes people to waste money on stuff that they don't need. However, without some kind of advertising good solutions/products cannot spread. Therefore, I think the good/acceptable way of advertising is spreading information in a honest, correct and helping way, aiming to improve something (such as the privacy of individuals).
@Gergely (∀E∃A) Thanks about coming back to that question and giving that insight. Now that you spell it out I see it. Next time I will try to sound a less like a bot
I see that ads are a major distraction on the web pages, channel for spreading malware (https://wishsimply.com/blog/no-ads-ahead-in-wishsimply/), tracking users (loosing privacy) and also encouraging people to purchase unneeded stuff as you said. With WishSimply the idea is to get and give stuff that is needed. Thus reducing the unneeded stuff.
@Rob Bosch I try to improve. Thanks for checking back!
@Gergely (∀E∃A) I tried searx due to this post. The search results I get are not very good sometimes. Are there some searx specific tips on how to improve the search? It also feels pretty slow and sometimes there are even bad gateway errors, but I guess that's dependent on the instance you choose. I'm currently using https://search.disroot.org/.
i don't know why it's so hard to find a searx instance that doesn't have either google and dukduckgo engines turned on by default. qwant and metager are somewhere in between. i think they have decent results and you can't really afford to go much lower and still expect results. if you use google , for example, the queries still go to them and those records can be used however they like. they might be able to suspect (but not legally) tie it back to you (with 100% certainty). plus you have to trust your searx instance. i would not want to give my queries to the biggest names or even an up-and-coming runner-up. my impression is that qwant and metager are similar but smaller. it's not as bad to give the small guys some business so that they can get in the game. i use duckduckgo directly out of convenience. i don't expect much and i think it's the least i can do.
Would like to mention, as search engine, search.lilo.org (lilo.org) which give back money to NGO of your choice after registering on their site with the water drops that you can capitalise for each search.
Je voudrai mentionner search.lilo.org (lilo.org) qui donne de l’argent aux ONG et associations de votre choix grâce aux gouttes d’eau que vous capitalisez via votre compte.
volriái mençonar search.lilo.org ( #lilo.org ), que da argent als ONG o associacion que causissètz mercé a gota d’aiga que capitalisatz via vòstre compte.
@[email protected] I think that all search engines can profit from selling their search data to others, but there are a few who offer the user an incentive to use their platform by allowing the user to direct some of the profit to causes they support.
Well, by default Lilo sends your searches to Google. It does not even anonymize them. In the context of this thread: it's just as bad as Google. It pretends to give money to non-profits: if you care about that: donate on your own. Don't sell your information to Google.
Which data are collected by third party algorithms used by Lilo?
At this time, Lilo doesn’t host its own search algorithm. Lilo uses algorithms created by third parties (such as Google, Yahoo, Bing). Those algorithms might have access to your IP adress and your browser version. They can also place ad cookies. If you were to use one of those search engines, it would also be the case. Moreover, the protection against ad tracking provided by Lilo (do not track or the disabling of ad tracking) helps prevent potential tracking by companies that commercialize those search algorithms.
Also to mention #matrix (sometimes called #riot by the uninformed) which is - unlike #diaspora - a consistent view federated "chat" network (technically it's a distributed JSON database, but don't tell anyone I've told you).
(And a sidenote: screaming censorship for decentralised and distributed networks is pretty funny. Still "freedom of speech" doesn't mean "right to be listened to", mind you. That's not censorship, that's keeping it civilised.)