Tabletop QOTD 2020-04-22

Borrowing from the idea of the Pluspora Check-in get some tabletop conversation going. If you have any questions that you want to get on the list to be asked, let me know. Also, if you'd like to be added or taken off the list of participants, let me know.

Do you watch/listen to other people play games? Let's play, twitch, or any other formats?

Sometimes I like reviews, but I get the better feeling for a game watching someone else play. With #RPGs I prefer to listen to podcasts to get the feel of the game, though I have watched a couple of solo sessions of Me, Myself, and Die- mostly because his characterizations are entertaining. But #Boardgames, I have to watch to get the feel of them.

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I've tried doing that... watched a few episodes of Critical Role etc but it never clicked for me. I also tried it with just audio podcasts of such, but many of them feel staged rather than actual play (that is they edit it to an extreme).
I never tried but honestly I'm not that interested
I don't, and never really saw the appeal. It seems to be something for younger generations: my son loves to watch Youtube videos from people playing Minecraft, but even as a toddler, he loved watching videos of people playing Mario. I prefer playing and discovering the game myself.
I do with board games when I'm struggling to get through the rulebook or when something there is unclear.

Or when I'm running a tournament. But that's a different situation entirely.
Oh, I have watched some videos on World of Warcraft, but only those that are about how to do a specific thing in the game (rather than watching some guy playing it for hours). Instructional more than actual play really, sort of like listening to a couple of GMs talk about how to handle a specific game mechanic in a tabletop game.
Normally I have no patience for it. Usually Tabletop videos are exceptions, partly because they're edited and only show the important bits, and skip or fast-forward other parts.

I have watched/listened to a couple of single-session games (like a couple of excellent Quietus games run by the designer), too. Once I tried one episode of Critical Role and I almost die.

BTW, I meant to say this but kept forgetting: thank you so much, Chuck, for doing this!

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For board games I might, but otherwise they leave me cold.
I don't do well with podcasts; my mind wanders and I don't maintain focus for very long.

I've never watched a youtube game session.
My major use for podcasts is while I'm driving if I don't want to listen to music. Otherwise, totally agree.
I'll occasionally watch a boardgame tutorial if I need some additional explanation beyond the rules but in general podcasts and videocasts don't interest me ... I'd rather read about it.
RPGs, almost never.

Video games, there are a few channels on YouTube I'll watch, normally to see what kind of shenanigans people get up with with Super Mario Maker and related ROM hacks. I haven't played Mario in ages, but some of the levels look so freakishly difficult they're fun to watch.

Boardgames, though, it's not uncommon. Most often it's when I want to learn more about a game, either because I'm trying to figure out the rules or because I'm thinking of getting it and want to see how it plays at the table before I shell out money for it.

Rahdo gets me in so much shit with my wife...
I watch a lot of watch it played style tutorial videos but very few actual plays where it's just people playing the game.

I usually watch to remind myself of rules for games I've not played in some time, or to check to see if I played anything wrong.

I do listen to some AP podcasts but those are all closer to radio dramas than actual plays.
I generally do not like watching others play games. The only time I was interested is with the game Techno Bowl. I find a hard time finding players to play this game. I also want to see how other play this game as it allows for a wide variety of different types of plays. It is a football boardgame that plays like you're a coach drawing up plays for your team to execute.

I think that showing how a game plays to an audience in a video needs to really improve. If you look at how poker is shown on TV, you will notice that the audience gets to see the entire state of the game. That includes information hidden from other players, namely the players' hands. All of that information is shown graphically on the screen. The size of the pot, blind level and size of individual bets are also shown graphically on the screen. All of this information is necessary for the audience to understand the state of the game. If you just show a video of the table, the audience will generally have little or no idea what is really going on and it makes it difficult for the audience to appreciate the game.

I've watched videos of Magic: The Gathering. At the time, I wasn't a hardcore player anymore, so when they name certain cards, I have no idea what many of them do. For a MtG broadcast, they really need to do the same thing with poker. They need to graphically show the hands of each player as well as the table state. When a new card is played, they need to pause, show the card and perhaps give an explanation of why that card is played an how it interacts with with is on the board or other cards in a player's deck that has yet to be drawn. This is the information I as a view want in order for me to understand what is going on.

They need to do the same thing with boardgames. Take a game like Ticket to Ride. You need to show the audience each player's hands in a graphic. You need to show the board and state. You need to show the score. The commentary can indicate how close the active player is to completing certain routes. You need to show cards that are draw, etc. A lot of this needs to be shown graphically. TTR is not a very complex game and still needs a decent amount of graphic support for a view to fully appreciate what is happening in the game and to be able to follow the game. So far, I have not seen anything like this in order for me to be interested in watching a play through of the game.